The Illustrious Ya ([info]putti_plush) wrote,
@ 2008-04-12 14:49:00
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John Ankerberg
I have been watching the debates of John Ankerberg. He is an Evangelical Christian TV host of his own (sorry) ghetto-ass TV programme. What I love about some of his programmes is that he'll bring on people of other faiths to debate with Christianity. He is obviously biased BUT he does let the other faiths speak! I appreciate that he lets his "opponent" guests speak without interruption, and that if one of the Christian guests is getting uppity, he'll stop the squabbling. Sometimes the opponent guests look bod, but more often they defend themselves well. I was very impressed with the Baha'i and Catholic guests. The only opponent guests that really made asses of themselves were the Muslims, who were constantly "BUT OURS IS THE ONLY WAY. WE ACCEPT CHRISTIANITY YES BUT YOU MUST ALL BECOME MUSLIM BLARGLARGL." The Muslims also TWISTED their own words and the words of the other side, giving me a headache. "But Mr. Christian, you are UNAWARE of the intricacies of the arabic tongue!" Mr. Christian was an Arab himself who spoke it fluently and had linguistics degrees in other ancient semetic languages! I think he knew what he was talking about!
Although I admired the catholic Jesuit priest, I couldn't finish watching the "Catholocism VS Christianity" debates. Mostly because CATHOLOCISM IS CHRISTIANITY YOU FOOCHTARDS. I find the whole Evangelical Protestant VS Catholic dabates BORING AND GALLING. So you want to have salvations through faith alone, and you believe that faith without works is hollow. Sure, personal belief. Can't we all just get along, foochas? The Evangelicals made gigantic asses of themselves going "NO U, UR WRONG."
The evangelicals were also horrible against the Baha'i guests. The Baha'i layed out their beliefs very clearly and succinctly. Then the evangelical went BUT NO YOU'RE WRONG. It all came down to how to interpret the Bible, with one side interpreting one way, and the other side a different way. Throughout the entire debate, you could hear the evangelical go "you are so funny. You are speaking, but I hear no words." ex:
"YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN JEEEESUS., YOU BELIEVE IN BAHA'ULLAH."
"We believe that Baha'ullah was the return of Jesus Christ, one of many incarnations of God to teach Man."
"SEE YOU JUST SAID IT, BAHA'ULLAH."
"We believe that Baha'ullah and Jesus are the same person."
"TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE, YOU JUST SAID IT!"
"Two different names, sir."
"JEEEEEEEEEEEESUS!"




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[info]kristindraw
2008-04-13 03:09 am UTC (link)
"CATHOLOCISM IS CHRISTIANITY YOU FOOCHTARDS"

I (heart) you for that, Ya-chan.

I would enjoy seeing religious debates based upon interpretation of the same text(s), if they could be held in a reasonable manner without any threat of hellfire. I think that kind of debate could be very useful! Like, for example, "Is it a good thing to be married?" St. Paul versus the gal who wrote Song of Songs! Can these two ever be reconciled? If not, how does one choose between following the path of St. Paul or the path of Songs? Should St. Augustine have loosened up? (biblical history: Song of Songs is believed by many not to have been written by King Solomon, for temporal reasons as I recall, and there is some evidence that the author was female.)

I love debates when they're between reasonable people and Guy A can say to Guy B, "You know, that's a good point! I never saw it that way." Unfortunately, that doesn't come 'round very often.

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[info]putti_plush
2008-04-13 04:01 am UTC (link)
I can't STAND the weird evangelicals who say Catholocism isn't Christianity. I can't imagine what alternate world they're living in, especially the :whore of babylon" ones. O.o

Your suggestion would be seriously SWEET. (If Solomon wrote the song of songs like my Catholic school taught me... CREEPY. That's like girls writing yaoi fanfics.) Should Augustine have loosened up: YES. He was once loose, and then he had a midlife crisis which caused him to ricochet in the other direction and then it was no fun. It's like Anne Rice.

Haha, just get Raikoala and me going and you'll see that! (I wish I could find good Youtube videos of debate. It REALLY helps to be able to listen to a TV show or discussionw hile drawing.)

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